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[Synce-devel] Installing under Ubuntu Feisty
D***@gmx.net
2007-09-24 10:18:28 UTC
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Hello list,

I am aware that my question may seem to be quite offensive, but please believe me that I don´t mean to complain about the software "snyce" itself, but about the way the installation process. And I wrote about this to the list some months ago, but this time, my goal is to make all of this more easy and understandable for so-called "newbies".

I am using Kubuntu Feisty with Kontact and my goal is to synchronize my HTC PDA (adress book and calendar). I got that far that generally, I can copy files to the PDA with "pls", as described in the synce-wiki. But the further step as described on

http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine

leads to desperation: Installation of the sync-plugin does not work. No matter where I copy "opensync-plugin.py", the command "msynctool --listplugins" does not show any installed plugin.

Now, I am using an apt-repository for opensync, as I do think that compiling all this stuff listed on the link above may lead any new linux user to installing windows on a separate partition and quit even trying synce. Apt is user-friendly (as far as I can see), and thats where we should continue the way we´re thinking here.

On the link above, we can read that the place of the path where opensync-plugins are installed may vary. But that´s exactly the point where I think that the developers should simply think another way: If developers of such software as synce simply would say: "okay, we´re going to install all parts of our software at a specific place, there wouldn´t be any problems with paths". Think about this: If the people who are creating apt-packages wouldn´t have the choice where to install libs, binaries etc, the end-user would appreciate it, because the installation process would be much more easier. Sure, this would lead to other discussions, but I think that we should see the benefits of such a way of thinking: If people can USE software in a easy way, they would surely agree to give up the DISCUSSION about IDEOLOGIES behind it. And if people gave up exactly that discussion about GPLed software, we all would go one step further in the plan to make people use free software, because it then would be NATURAL to use it - and no discussion would arise simply because of EXISTING free analogies to commercial software.

What you all think of this?

Regards,
Dennis
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Dennis Herber
2007-09-24 12:40:49 UTC
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Hello all,

i finally seem to get further... But synchronisation still fails. I have created the group, added a member to the group (as described on http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine) and launched the command

$ msynctool --sync pda-sync

but this somehow doesnŽt work correctly. First of all, I have to quit kontact to get it working, but then it still says that it fails - as the output is quite long, I added it as attachment.

I feel that I am one or two steps away from the goal - please help me to finally make me scream "yeah! iŽve done it!!!" :)

Regards,
Dennis

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Datum: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:37:53 +0100
Betreff: Re: [SynCE-Users] Installing under Ubuntu Feisty
I forgot to do a reply-to-all..... here is my previous email to Dennis...
I had this problem too and after a few days of perseverance and
googling I got it working.
Are you using the opensync packages from feisty or have you compiled
opensync from source? The feisty (& gutsy for that matter) use V0.19,
you need to use a newer version. I downloaded the source from the
opensync download pages, remeber to download the plugins you need too.
http://www.opensync.org/wiki/download
There is a python plugin to install also. This gives you the
/usr/local/lib/opensync/python-plugins (I think) directory, symlink
your synce python file to this directory and it should work.
/usr/local/lib/opensync/python-plugins/
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1100 2007-09-21 10:08 sample.py
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 2007-09-21 15:13 synce.py ->
/home/craig/svn/sync-engine/opensync-plugin.py
synce-plugin
testmodule
google-calendar
kdepim-sync
I downloaded the 0.22 msynctool too so I would probably use that.
Hope you have better luck.
-Craig.
Post by D***@gmx.net
Hello list,
I am aware that my question may seem to be quite offensive, but please
believe me that I donŽt mean to complain about the software "snyce" itself,
but about the way the installation process. And I wrote about this to the
list some months ago, but this time, my goal is to make all of this more
easy and understandable for so-called "newbies".
Post by D***@gmx.net
I am using Kubuntu Feisty with Kontact and my goal is to synchronize my
HTC PDA (adress book and calendar). I got that far that generally, I can
copy files to the PDA with "pls", as described in the synce-wiki. But the
further step as described on
Post by D***@gmx.net
http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine
leads to desperation: Installation of the sync-plugin does not work. No
matter where I copy "opensync-plugin.py", the command "msynctool
--listplugins" does not show any installed plugin.
Post by D***@gmx.net
Now, I am using an apt-repository for opensync, as I do think that
compiling all this stuff listed on the link above may lead any new linux user to
installing windows on a separate partition and quit even trying synce. Apt
is user-friendly (as far as I can see), and thats where we should continue
the way weŽre thinking here.
Post by D***@gmx.net
On the link above, we can read that the place of the path where
opensync-plugins are installed may vary. But thatŽs exactly the point where I
think that the developers should simply think another way: If developers of
such software as synce simply would say: "okay, weŽre going to install all
parts of our software at a specific place, there wouldnŽt be any problems
with paths". Think about this: If the people who are creating apt-packages
wouldnŽt have the choice where to install libs, binaries etc, the end-user
would appreciate it, because the installation process would be much more
easier. Sure, this would lead to other discussions, but I think that we should
see the benefits of such a way of thinking: If people can USE software in
a easy way, they would surely agree to give up the DISCUSSION about
IDEOLOGIES behind it. And if people gave up exactly that discussion about GPLed
software, we all would go one step further in the plan to make people use
free software, because it then would be NATURAL to use it - and no discussion
would arise simply because of EXISTING free analogies to commercial
software.
Post by D***@gmx.net
What you all think of this?
Regards,
Dennis
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Dennis Herber
2007-09-24 13:30:19 UTC
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Hello all,
It looks like it's the same broken pipe issue that others (and myself)
have been having.
Allright. If you have been having it, there must be a fix - would you please tell me what to do?

Regards,
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Dr J A Gow
2007-09-24 20:49:09 UTC
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Post by Dennis Herber
Hello all,
i finally seem to get further... But synchronisation still fails. I have
created the group, added a member to the group (as described on
http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine) and launched the command
Post by Dennis Herber
$ msynctool --sync pda-sync
but this somehow doesn´t work correctly. First of all, I have to quit
kontact to get it working, but then it still says that it fails - as the
output is quite long, I added it as attachment.
Post by Dennis Herber
I feel that I am one or two steps away from the goal - please help me to
finally make me scream "yeah! i´ve done it!!!" :)
I couldn't find a dump of your _sync-engine_ console output (not the
msynctool output) in the attachments. Could you send me a copy of the
messages emitted by sync-engine during the sync run? I may be able to tell
more from this than from the msynctool output alone.

John.
Dennis Herber
2007-09-25 06:40:40 UTC
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Hi John,
Post by Dr J A Gow
I couldn't find a dump of your _sync-engine_ console output (not the
msynctool output) in the attachments. Could you send me a copy of the
messages emitted by sync-engine during the sync run? I may be able to tell
more from this than from the msynctool output alone.
Sure, find the output attached as txt-file. Please note that I had to re-run the sync twice, because at first time, there was some notification from korganizer still running.

Regards,
Dennis
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Dennis Neumeier
2007-10-09 08:30:57 UTC
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Sorry that I write again, but I got no reply for my question (see below). Is
any response lost in the digital river? If yes, please try to send me the
answer again...
Post by Dennis Herber
Post by Dr J A Gow
I couldn't find a dump of your _sync-engine_ console output (not the
msynctool output) in the attachments. Could you send me a copy of the
messages emitted by sync-engine during the sync run? I may be able to
tell more from this than from the msynctool output alone.
Sure, find the output attached as txt-file. Please note that I had to
re-run the sync twice, because at first time, there was some notification
from korganizer still running.
Regards,
Dennis

Dennis Herber
2007-09-28 09:22:00 UTC
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Hi John,
Post by Dr J A Gow
I couldn't find a dump of your _sync-engine_ console output (not the
msynctool output) in the attachments. Could you send me a copy of the
messages emitted by sync-engine during the sync run? I may be able to tell
more from this than from the msynctool output alone.
Sure, find the output attached as txt-file. Please note that I had to re-run the sync twice, because at first time, there was some notification from korganizer still running.

Regards,
Dennis
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Craig Wayman
2007-09-24 10:37:53 UTC
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I forgot to do a reply-to-all..... here is my previous email to Dennis...

I had this problem too and after a few days of perseverance and
googling I got it working.

Are you using the opensync packages from feisty or have you compiled
opensync from source? The feisty (& gutsy for that matter) use V0.19,
you need to use a newer version. I downloaded the source from the
opensync download pages, remeber to download the plugins you need too.

http://www.opensync.org/wiki/download

There is a python plugin to install also. This gives you the
/usr/local/lib/opensync/python-plugins (I think) directory, symlink
your synce python file to this directory and it should work.

***@ereborCW:~/svn/sync-engine/tools$ls -l
/usr/local/lib/opensync/python-plugins/
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1100 2007-09-21 10:08 sample.py
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 2007-09-21 15:13 synce.py ->
/home/craig/svn/sync-engine/opensync-plugin.py

***@ereborCW:~/svn/sync-engine/tools$msynctool --listplugins
Available plugins:
synce-plugin
testmodule
google-calendar
kdepim-sync

I downloaded the 0.22 msynctool too so I would probably use that.

Hope you have better luck.
-Craig.
Post by D***@gmx.net
Hello list,
I am aware that my question may seem to be quite offensive, but please believe me that I don´t mean to complain about the software "snyce" itself, but about the way the installation process. And I wrote about this to the list some months ago, but this time, my goal is to make all of this more easy and understandable for so-called "newbies".
I am using Kubuntu Feisty with Kontact and my goal is to synchronize my HTC PDA (adress book and calendar). I got that far that generally, I can copy files to the PDA with "pls", as described in the synce-wiki. But the further step as described on
http://www.synce.org/index.php/SyncEngine
leads to desperation: Installation of the sync-plugin does not work. No matter where I copy "opensync-plugin.py", the command "msynctool --listplugins" does not show any installed plugin.
Now, I am using an apt-repository for opensync, as I do think that compiling all this stuff listed on the link above may lead any new linux user to installing windows on a separate partition and quit even trying synce. Apt is user-friendly (as far as I can see), and thats where we should continue the way we´re thinking here.
On the link above, we can read that the place of the path where opensync-plugins are installed may vary. But that´s exactly the point where I think that the developers should simply think another way: If developers of such software as synce simply would say: "okay, we´re going to install all parts of our software at a specific place, there wouldn´t be any problems with paths". Think about this: If the people who are creating apt-packages wouldn´t have the choice where to install libs, binaries etc, the end-user would appreciate it, because the installation process would be much more easier. Sure, this would lead to other discussions, but I think that we should see the benefits of such a way of thinking: If people can USE software in a easy way, they would surely agree to give up the DISCUSSION about IDEOLOGIES behind it. And if people gave up exactly that discussion about GPLed software, we all would go one step further in the plan to make people use free software, because it then would be NATURAL to use it - and no discussion would arise simply because of EXISTING free analogies to commercial software.
What you all think of this?
Regards,
Dennis
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